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	<title>Comments on: Trends in fairness and complexity</title>
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		<title>By: Brad Beattie</title>
		<link>http://cognitivesandbox.com/posts/trends-in-fairness-and-complexity/comment-page-1/#comment-169</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Beattie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely have my systems I prefer over STV (at the moment it&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://elections.cognitivesandbox.com/#ignored&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ranked Pairs using ratings ballots&lt;/a&gt;), but I&#039;m on board with anything that moves us along that historical trend towards fairer systems.
I&#039;m thinking lately that smaller steps are in order, by which I mean instituting electoral reform at municipal levels. BC-STV recently failed with only 39% support, but Vancouver was 47% for it, Victoria 59%. I&#039;m preparing a presentation for &lt;a href=&quot;http://vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/mayorcouncil/speaktocouncil.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Vancouver&#039;s city council&lt;/a&gt;. Maybe that&#039;s the next step. *shrug*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely have my systems I prefer over STV (at the moment it&#8217;s <a href="http://elections.cognitivesandbox.com/#ignored" rel="nofollow">Ranked Pairs using ratings ballots</a>), but I&#8217;m on board with anything that moves us along that historical trend towards fairer systems. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking lately that smaller steps are in order, by which I mean instituting electoral reform at municipal levels. BC-STV recently failed with only 39% support, but Vancouver was 47% for it, Victoria 59%. I&#8217;m preparing a presentation for <a href="http://vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/mayorcouncil/speaktocouncil.htm" rel="nofollow">Vancouver&#8217;s city council</a>. Maybe that&#8217;s the next step. *shrug*</p>
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		<title>By: Ratel</title>
		<link>http://cognitivesandbox.com/posts/trends-in-fairness-and-complexity/comment-page-1/#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator>Ratel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great description, I drew out something similar once but never followed it through.  I wish more people would see electoral reform this way. There are some people who are attached to particular systems and aren&#039;t willing to settle for improvements that aren&#039;t perfect.  We all need to recognize there is no such thing as a perfect democratic system and that the goal is progress towards more fairness, not some particular implementation of PR or any other type of reform.
thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great description, I drew out something similar once but never followed it through.  I wish more people would see electoral reform this way. There are some people who are attached to particular systems and aren&#8217;t willing to settle for improvements that aren&#8217;t perfect.  We all need to recognize there is no such thing as a perfect democratic system and that the goal is progress towards more fairness, not some particular implementation of PR or any other type of reform.</p>
<p>thanks.</p>
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